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frusciantrix 01-31-2012 01:08 PM

GT86 Driven: Pistonheads
 
http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests..._campaign=GT86

about it's track capabilities:
"[...]that the standard brakes didn't like the abuse and began to fade after three laps[...]

That supports my decision to wait a year or longer for a STi Version with supercharger and suitable brakes.

ichitaka05 01-31-2012 01:10 PM

^i guess better brake pads isn't an option for you

SUB-FT86 01-31-2012 01:11 PM

It probably needs better pads? Probably was worn out to begin with.

ichitaka05 01-31-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86 (Post 124298)
It probably needs better pads? Probably was worn out to begin with.

No, Impreza pads aren't great pads to begin with. It's eco pads, so if you wanna track it, it's best replace w better pads

frusciantrix 01-31-2012 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 124297)
^i guess better brake pads isn't an option for you

It is but only in combination with 4 piston front brakes and good brake cooling. I'm sure Subaru or Toyota will release a more track focused car in the future :)

RRnold 01-31-2012 01:21 PM

I would expect that since they are oem brakes. That probably explains why the Gazoo FT86 @ Nurburgring had the brake cooling duct and probably something Toyota/Subaru will update in the later versions.

BlackRacer 01-31-2012 01:35 PM

Anyone noticed the "GT 86" badge at the rear end of the car? Saw it the first time - looks nice.

Due to the thing with the fading brakes: In some other reviews the were always talking about stable, well performing brakes :iono:

mines13 01-31-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackRacer (Post 124315)
Anyone noticed the "GT 86" badge at the rear end of the car? Saw it the first time - looks nice.

Due to the thing with the fading brakes: In some other reviews the were always talking about stable, well performing brakes :iono:

I assume your Celica Gt-4 does not have stock pads in it? As was brought up, people run stock 2 piston WRX brakes all the time on the track with just fluid,pads and lines. No worries.

BlackRacer 01-31-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mines13 (Post 124317)
I assume your Celica Gt-4 does not have stock pads in it? As was brought up, people run stock 2 piston WRX brakes all the time on the track with just fluid,pads and lines. No worries.

You're right: There are EBC Yellowstuff pads installed - 2 laps on Nürburgring Nordschleife in a row are possible without any problems - but even stock the brakes are awesome (4 piston front brakes)!

wcbjr 01-31-2012 01:55 PM

Subaru? Supercharger? Keep waiting.

mark7s4 01-31-2012 02:02 PM

It was mentioned in the review below (at that same event) that each journalist had a 10 lap stint one after another but many would not do a cool down lap. Therefore, the three cars available suffered from brake fade and shudder. One car experienced complete brake fade and was taken out temporarily for repair.

There isn't a brade pad in the world that would take that abuse. However, OEM brake pads are not designed for track use so I would be willing to bet a pad upgrade would solve the fade problems for track use on stock tires. Maybe cooling ducts would be necessary on slicks.

http://blogs.km77.com/teletransporte/7899/toyota-gt-86/

7thgear 01-31-2012 02:06 PM

Guess some journalists are just more aware of vehicle dynamics than others.

dabocx 01-31-2012 02:10 PM

Stock pads are always going to do that. Pads, lines, fluids and some home depot ducting will solve 90% of the braking issues on the track.

frusciantrix 01-31-2012 03:00 PM

Always? I disagree. My Mini John Cooper Works has got stock brake cooling (looks well finished into the front bumper. No need to cut out the fog lamps), stock 4 piston breaks, stock brake pads and is suitable for the track. I only switched to performance brake pads because of the brake pad wear, though fading never was an issue.
Same for my mates Renault Megane RS which also got a slip differential (I envy him for that ;))

So, there are some cars with track capabilities and I'm excited what sharper version Subaru might release in the future because the whole concept of the car is utterly good and cries for power and bigger brakes. :)


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