THIS THREAD IS FOR OWNER EXPERIENCES AND QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR EXPERIENCES WITH THIS KIT.

Thank you @digital_assassin for starting this thread. He no longer owns his 86 so I will periodically update this thread instead

Please post once you've ordered and I'll keep it updated with people that have ordered and will ultimately have the kit on the car. I ask that we all post the Dyno results and impressions/experiences.

This is not a thread for debate about the pro's and cons of this vs. Vortech, Innovate, AVO, FBM, FA20Club, etc. That thread is found HERE This thread is for owner proven facts about this product only, both good and bad.

Kraftwerks Product Page
Install Manual
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIR8...pcfo8gVHsOS30Q

Replacement Belt if ever needed can be ordered. There are three known versions.
1. Original first revision with the smaller crank pulley and 90mm Rotrex pulley - 20mm width 150 teeth
HERE

2. Second revision with ** tooth crank pulley and 95mm Rotrex pulley - 20mm width 160 teeth
HERE

2. Third revision with ** tooth crank pulley and 95mm Rotrex pulley - 30mm width 160 teeth
HERE

Idler Pulley Bearing Replacement
Due to the fact that this kit does not have an auto-tensioner, I found that the belt can become too tight depending on the temperature. As I live in an area where the temperature can swing 86 degrees F within hours, I tend to keep my tension a bit on the loose side to prevent premature bearing failure on the idlers and the Rotrex.

I have the second revision of belt/pulleys on my kit and they use three 6203 bearings in the idler pulleys. You will need a strong pair of internal snap ring pliers for this job (the reversible style will not be strong enough). Bearings will need to have C3 clearance and be designed to work in hot environments. I have tried both F A G brand and NSK 6203C3 DUU bearings but the hot engine bay temperatures just cooked the grease out of them within weeks. So far, I have been having good success with Nachi 62032NSE bearings.


Recommended hose clamp install thread - ask @glamcem why this is necessary :)


Known Owners
1. @digital_assassin Ordered 10/3/13 - Received 12/3/13 - Dyno Results 274HP / 227TQ initial tune - updated 279HP / 222TQ on DynoJet with tune by @Drift-Office both on 92 octane
2. @elopez Order #20
3. @grostoine Ordered 10/16/13 - Received 12/11/13 - Tuned by Otto-Moto and dyno'd on Maha 276HP / 246TQ
4. @cobrabyte Ordered 10/17/13 - Received 12/17/13 - SOLD unused kit to @post_break
5. @retrosmiths Ordered 10/21/13
6. @dren Received around 12/12/13?
7. @PRORICAN Ordered 1/14/14 - Received 1/21/14 -Installed 1/26/14 - Dyno Results 266HP / 198TQ on DynoDynamics with Basemap tune by @DeliciousTuning
8. @ExcelerateRep On Hand 1/17/14 - Dyno 3/7/14 245HP / 210TQ on Mustang Dyno and tuned by @Visconti
9. @wrohdejr Ordered 2/4/14 - 286HP / 222TQ on Dynojet and tuned by @Drift-Office
10. @wahsaihin Ordered 2/4/14
11. @sales@delicioustuning.com Purchased 2/7/14 - Installed 2/8/14 - 275 on 91 & ~332 on E85 on Mustang Dyno and tuned by @DeliciousTuning
12. @utekineir - Installed 2/8/14
13. @OmarGC - Installed ?? - Kit for sale as of 4/27/14 - Sold to @Rulin
14. @Ocho Seis - Dyno Results 296HP / 235TQ on DynaPack Dyno with tune by On Point
15. @captain_jack - installed 2/19/14 - 246HP / 196TQ on Mustang Dyno and Tuned by @nelsmar - Selling as of 5/14/14
16. @mit_peid - ordered 2/19/14
17. @glamcem - ordered 4/7/14 - installed 5/7/14 - e-tune by Moto East
18. @post_break - purchased brand new from @cobrabyte - Installed 5/10/14
19. @zoth - Ordered from Moto East on 4/17/14 - Installed 5/11/14 - Dyno on 93 octane 275HP / 220TQ with tune by @moto-mike and Dyno on E85 368HP / 272TQ
20. @Freeman - Ordered on 4/30/14 - Installed 5/12/14 - Kraftwerks Tune 261HP/195TQ - Drift-Office tune to come later
21. @SPCorBUST - Ordered on 5/6/14 - C38 Blower - Installed 5/9/14 - Delicious tune on both E85 & 91 Octane
22. @importdps - Installed 5/12/14 - Tune by Delicious
23. @Kakawate - Installed and tuned by Kraftwerks - Automatic
24. @SterlingBrz - Installed 5/8/14 - Tune by Kraftwerks
25. @Model Citizen - Installed January? - Tune by Delicious
26. @vgi - C38 kit - Installed 5/17/14 - Stated numbers on Mustang dyno 299HP with 93 octane fuel
27. @NCItaly - used kit purchased around 5/18/14
28. @TmP - Installed 6/1/14
29. @madpcsupreme - Installed 5/19/14
30. @Taino-BRZ - installed 5/30/14 - E85 301HP/226Tq
31. @zERoTu - Ordered 5/21/14
32. @FR-S Matt - Ordered 6/2/14
33. @Squishy - Installed 7/7/14
34. @penguin - Installed 6/10/14
35. @zERoTu - Installed 6/14/14
36. @D-VO - Installed 6/17/14
37. @ST-A - Installed 6/19/14
38. @rickspecd - Installed ????
39. @noob001 - Installed 6/23/14??
40. @Jcl - Installed 7/30/14 - KW Tune
41. @j.F.c.R.a.S. - Ordered 7/21/14
42. @nlowell - Installed 8/4/14 - 314HP/242TQ on Mustang Dyno with E85 Fuel
43. @Gixxersixxerman - Installed 9/8
44. @myd_lyf_crysys - Install and tune by @Drift-Office 9/20/14 AUTOMATIC 261HP/205TQ on 92 Octane
45. @projek_01 - Installed 10/11/14
46. @JoonPrime - Installed around 10/2/14 - Stated 255HP / 205TQ
47. @Rulin - Purchased kit from OmarGC - Installed 10/12/14 - Tuned by @moto-east
48. @BRZZZZZZZZZZ - Installed around 11/27/14 - Stated 258HP with C38 blower. Tuned by @Airboy
49. @Triumphrider - Install date ??? - C38 on Moto East E-tune
50. @DAN_BRZ - Installed 4/14/15 - C38 on Moto East E-tune
51. @Kojiro - Installed 1/17/15 - C38 on Moto East E-Tune

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Here's Kraftwerks Dyno's for a reference point. Both Dyno's were performed on a Rototest HUBDYNO.


C30 Blower
This one is Stock BRZ vs Supercharged BRZ (95mm pulley) with stock headers and exhaust running 91 octane fuel. This shows a gain of 81.9HP and 55.1TQ.

http://cms.kraftwerksusa.com/photo/g...ab8f96247c.png
http://cms.kraftwerksusa.com/photo/g...38c3542548.png

This one is Stock BRZ vs. Supercharged BRZ (95mm pulley) with the forthcoming Skunk2 Headers and Exhaust and fueled with E85. I've been told that the headers are going to be part of their Alpha Series line and should be released in January. This shows a gain of 127.1HP and 83.2TQ.

http://cms.kraftwerksusa.com/photo/g...09480d8c79.png
http://cms.kraftwerksusa.com/photo/g...82406d79d1.png

This one is Stock BRZ vs. Supercharged BRZ (90mm pulley) with the forthcoming Skunk2 Headers and Exhaust and fueled with E85. This shows a gain of 180.8HP and 119.4TQ.

http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/...psd9f16fbd.jpg
http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/...ps34275c7f.jpg

C38 Blower
Here are results using a C38 on an Automatic.

This dyno sheet shows 91 octane numbers at 262.7HP and 204.6TQ. This is an increase of 108.3HP and 70.7TQ.
http://cms.kraftwerksusa.com/photo/f...b0c2a63bec.png

This dyno sheet shows E85 numbers at 341.5HP and 244.5TQ. This is an increase of 187.1HP and 110.6TQ
http://cms.kraftwerksusa.com/photo/f...340c3dd01d.png


Engine bay layout. Oil cooler sandwich plate that is shown is a Skunk2 product. The oil cooler is anticipated to be released in time to ship with the Supercharger kit, sold separately though.
http://cms.kraftwerksusa.com/photo/g...95a80d0270.jpg

Looks like I'm order #26 for this one. Did the homework and really like how this one's shaping-up!

Count me in! :D

Well put Mike ... my POV was simply to give enthusiasts who may not be in the 'know' a little background info on Bill. Not looking to sit here and argue who was FA20 powered, DPI, which ECU was harder to tune, etc.

OK guys, this thread has been cleaned per the OP's request.

Please follow his colorful bolded directions at the top of the thread.

:cheers:

Any dyno on stock exhaust, 91 gas and 90mm pulley?

Would definitely like to see some more videos of the system in use... dyno, street, track... I'm easy. ;)

Is the release date have been announce?

Or we are waiting for the 30th person to show?

It would be very nice to have at least an update or something ?


By the way i'm number 27.

Bump

Any word on this? I haven't gotten an e-mail or anything yet.

You should contact them!

I have but it stopped to the point I was going to have my finale price... I never had it. Still waiting. I called them friday but I guess it wasn't open.

sorry grostoine....but we have this pesky holiday called thanksgiving in the USA...call in if you havent heard from the sales team

Oupss sorry I didn'T gave update. CJ emailed me and everything is paid. Just waiting for it now :)

I'm still waiting on some bank transfers to settle, then I'm gonna call in and settle-up! Super excited to get this thing installed! :D

Got it
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psitrocels.jpg


Black edition!
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Uploaded the install manual and added link on first post

So far the install is coming right along. The manual is clear and easy to follow. The outlet was clocked to the wrong direction and I lost time figuring out how to properly change it without damaging the impeller blades but once I found the right documents it was no big deal.

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Put the plate w/ s/c on the car and notice the outlet orientation

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...pssicfsvqx.jpg

Fixed
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...pssl2vomou.jpg

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psivwgjyzs.jpg

Be watchful of this. The kit shipped with a slightly longer bolt than the 45mm specified and is in contact with the oil filter. I'm picking up 40mm bolts for $1 each tonight and swapping them out on both pulleys. Cheap and easy to rectify just be aware of it. Mine might be the only one shipped this way.
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psvcplazpz.jpg

So far the quality and fit up of the parts is top notch. The 1 long bolt is my only issue. Good job @KraftWerks & @gmsii . I'll continue with the oil cooler and the intercooler tonight.

I'm surprised they didn't have the bolts going the other direction. It doesn't look like it in the picture, but would it be possible the put them the other way around? When you get the shorter bolts make sure they still have some threads sticking out the other side. It might be better to grind down the supplied bolts given how little threads are left.

Sorry to pick on the one negative, overall the install looks great, I can't wait to see your results.

The socket head bolts are recessed into the plate in a hole much smaller than the nut. A 45mm bolt will be just fine but it appears I was shipped a 50mm. There's about 10mm projection and all you need to have full capacity is a full nut of grip, projection does nothing. I'm going to try the 40mm for now and see if that flushes out.

I don't see oil reservoir and cooler for the Rotrex ???

Oh and will I be able to keep my perrin lightweeight pulley or it only works with stock pulley?

Stock pulley. I'll post some pics of EVERYTHING tomorrow. I'm 100% done.

The first thread or two on most bolts is tapered to ease installation. I agree that you only need a full nut of grip, but not everyone knows what that actually means. You seem to, so this is just to make sure anyone reading this understands.

So I finished the install last night. The oil cooler reservoir was a bitch due to the instruction sequence. I'll point this out to Kraftwerks. The brake lines need to be released from the car to get at this bolt in the picture. I think I had to release the brake line from 4 clips to get it to move enough to install the bracket.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psdd9uaxis.jpg

The instructions direct you to install the oil reservoir and then move to the oil cooler then the oil filter and then run the hoses. I would highly suggest that you install the fittings and hoses onto the oil reservoir and then bolt it to the bracket. If you install in the sequence in the instructions you will end up removing the oil reservoir to install the hoses. If you do it the way I suggest just make sure you are lining things up so you don't have to pull on the hose and move the fittings which may loosen them.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...pskwhbqbzl.jpg

To install the Oil Cooler you will need to drop all the splash guards and the heavy plastic bottom piece to install the cooler to the A/C condenser.

http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...psutzprrgp.jpg

Routing of the hoses for the oil cooler on the drivers side is best to tuck behind the washer reservoir neck like this
http://i1144.photobucket.com/albums/...pslf0ej8dx.jpg

Intercooler and piping is a breeze. Here's the routing.
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When finishing up with the bypass valve install the small vacuum line to it before you install the valve. Here is the routing I chose for this line and where I placed the T into the brake booster line. Kind of hard to see the small black hose. I'll try and get better pictures if anyone needs them.
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Headlights back on the car. It all fit!
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How hard was the install? How long does it takes you? Were you alone?

Exept the bolt lenght, did you get any issue during the install?

Did you start the car? how does it pulls ?

This is a very easy install. I did it by myself and it took me 2 nights, or 8 hours total. It would have taken much less time if I didn't have to research how to change the outlet position of the Rotrex and if the Oil Reservoir / Cooler instructions were better. I would think that now that I've done one I could do it in about 5 hours start to finish.

I probably wont start the car till tomorrow. I didn't get a tune from KW and will be limping it to @Drift-Office on Saturday and dropping it with him for the week.

I won't put the windshield washer bottle cause I don't even use my wiper's. Do you think i should be able to put the oilcooler of the rotrex where the washer bottle is supposed to go? I will certainly modified my bumper so there is enought air to it down.

Thanks for taking the time to post an update on the install! Wish we could see the look on your face when you take it down the road for the first time.

By what means did you prime the traction fluid system?
You could remove the gearbelt and run N/A en route to Bob.

I haven't primed it yet. I will be taking the belt off for the trip up north.

Have you run into any issues with putting the bumper back on? Curious as to how the fitment is with the air filter in that location. Looks good though!

I have an APR bumper and it didn't have any issues with the filter. Same location as Perrin CAI.

On an FRS there are a couple plastic air diverters screwed to the inside of the factory grill that will need to go.

Next tip for you guys that bought the kit. To prime the Rotrex it is very easy (2 minutes easy) if you prime with air like the Rotrex manual states. I didn't try the method in the KW instructions but instead went to the depot and bought a Ryobi 12V Inflator ($20) that has a air mattress inflator (HVLP) and set it to 10PSI and filled the oil reservoir, loosened the Rotrex inlet and put a towel around the mattress nozzle and placed it in the top of the Oil Reservoir. Hit the switch and let it run for about 5 seconds and turned it off, removed the hose and checked the level. Refill and repeat this process until the oil starts seeping from the inlet at the Rotrex. Tighten the bolt and then follow the procedure to start the car and continue the fill. When it was all said and done I had used all but about the last 1 1/2 - 2 inches of oil in the supplied bottle. Be careful with this stuff, it's $100 a bottle and you need almost all of it. Also make sure once you start the priming process that you don't let air get into the line by running/pushing the reservoir dry.

My car made the drive to Bob today and all is well. Approx. 150 miles and no leaks or issues. There is a lot of the supercharger whine with this kit which I would attribute to the toothed belt. It sounds pretty cool IMO. And the Recirc/BOV makes some nice sound that you can hear but it's really tame, not screaming look I me... I'm boosted, but rather putting a smile on your face when you hear a faint PSSHHHH!

DA,
I saw your car and install today at DO. It looks really good! Exposed gears! Aaaarrrr!
Be confident that you have left your car in the hands of some gifted tuners, who have the experience, expertise and patience to get the job done right. I am so glad I used DriftOffice for my FI tune.
Anxious to hear the results, from you or Bob.
Pete

i'm not big on centrifugal blowers, but this is a nice kit. i love the toothed, separate belt. it'd be my choice if i were in the market.

Tuning is well under way. Stay tuned for results from @Drift-Office

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That bumper!:thumbsup:

How do we spin the rotrex housing to have it positionig the right way?

http://www.rotrex.com/media/5fd67e23...20Handbook_pdf

Go to page 22. Be very careful and follow the instructions to the letter.