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vh_supra26 11-27-2012 11:49 AM

Subaru BRZ, Meet HKS Supercharger
 
Japanese Tuner Adds What Most Think BRZ Needs: More Power

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Recently, I had the pleasure of meeting up with Masinori Kuwahara, among the first people in the world to get their hands on the all-new HKS GT Supercharger Complete Kit (GTS7040L) specifically for the Subaru BRZ, and by extension, the Scion FR-S. Kuwahara-san is a parts retailer here in Japan, and he's also a friend and business partner of the HKS president. It helps to have friends in high places.

According to Kuwahara, the HKS unit is "a basic kit with high potential." He said installation on his personal BRZ was relatively easy and took about a day, with the only major structural modification revolving around shifting the radiator frame in order to properly mount the boost pipe. Once the supercharger was installed, the car was put on the dyno and some slight adjustments were made to the fuel and air flow as well as ignition timing. He saw a real, measured increase in power from 157 to 235 horsepower (in Japanese measurements) at the rear wheels, and all with a largely stock motor.

How high is high potential? Kuwahara believes that with a complete rebuild of the new FA20 2.0-liter boxer-four, it could push as much as 400 horsepower, but he's confident he could get it to 280 horsepower with new fuel injectors, an aftermarket exhaust system, and some valve reworking. Unlike rebuilding the engine, these modifications and power improvements would be reasonable enough for an advanced tuner to achieve. We've already seen as much at the recent 2012 SEMA show, where several Scion FR-S cars were fitted with superchargers. HKS partner Evasive showcased a prototype HKS unit on its SEMA Scion FR-S.

Kuwahara's already had the car out on the road (the HKS kit is production spec and fully street legal in Japan), and said its overall feel is "not much different than stock." Not surprising, the power surge comes on at higher RPMs, although it maintains a smooth feel at lower revs, where he's spent most of his time driving the car.

So while the HKS unit could help alleviate the BRZ's much-discussed lack of overall power, it doesn't come cheap. Kuwahara said it costs approximately $6000 (in Japan) for the supercharger alone, which doesn't include an upgraded ECU chip. Is it worth it? Kuwahara thinks so, but of course, he's cozy with the president of HKS, so take it with a slight pinch of salt. Unless you also have friends in high places you'll probably have to wait a bit to get your hands on one. It's a combination of an order backlog in Japan (no surprise there) and emission regulations that will require some correcting before HKS can legally import it for U.S. street use.

While not for everyone, the HKS application would make sense for the occasional racer looking to get a performance boost on race day, but it's also sedate enough for everyday driving. With the ease of installation and a roughly 75 horsepower performance bump with only slight tweaks, it's easy to see why the HKS Supercharger would make sense for owners desperate for more performance from their rear-drive sports coupe.5
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SUB-FT86 11-27-2012 12:51 PM

In the mid to low range it feels normal? Sounds like it isn't worth it to me.

lucius 11-27-2012 12:52 PM

...I thought Toyota/Subaru said there's no space??...lol

bunny86 11-27-2012 01:03 PM

They need to get the horsepower figures clear, I have never heard of "Japanese horsepower" before :confused0068:


EDIT: I think they may have made a typo and 157 should read 197 as I have read that HKS expect a 40hp increase in power if the SC is just bolted straight on.

ST185RC 11-27-2012 01:05 PM

Oh god not racing strips.... It now looks like a Mustang

M-17 11-27-2012 01:08 PM

^ Ha, that's what I was thinking. Stripes + supercharger = almost a Mustang?

I like what I hear, but damn its also pretty expensive though.

SVTSHC 11-27-2012 01:08 PM

Like SUB said, if the low-range still feels like it does stock then this kit does not interest me at all.

Rampage 11-27-2012 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by bunny86 (Post 577360)
They need to get the horsepower figures clear, I have never heard of "Japanese horsepower" before :confused0068:


EDIT: I think they may have made a typo and 157 should read 197 as I have read that HKS expect a 40hp increase in power if the SC is just bolted straight on.

They said "horsepower at the rear wheels" so 157 is not far off. Most stock BRZ/FR-S were hitting 162-167 rwhp on American dynos.

phattyduck 11-27-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bunny86 (Post 577360)
They need to get the horsepower figures clear, I have never heard of "Japanese horsepower" before :confused0068:


EDIT: I think they may have made a typo and 157 should read 197 as I have read that HKS expect a 40hp increase in power if the SC is just bolted straight on.

That's in PS and at the wheels (PS is metric horsepower). Very similar to the ~160 WHP we have been seeing in the states.

-Charlie

flippy 11-27-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ST185RC (Post 577370)
Oh god not racing strips.... It now looks like a Mustang

+10 HP

Fenrir 11-27-2012 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lucius (Post 577333)
...I thought Toyota/Subaru said there's no space??...lol

It's amusing that almost every speedshop who has made a kit so far has a similar experience.

"Alright boys, we'll need to find a place to put thi- Oh there's already a perfectly sized space for it? What about the pipi- oh it's clear exactly where it needs to go? Cool."

Wes 11-27-2012 01:59 PM

I don't think I would pay that much for something that would feel like stock at lower end...

fritzy 11-27-2012 02:09 PM

Maybe that means we can still get decent mileage for commuting and such, but have that extra oomph for the track and autocross.

Pete 11-27-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by fritzy (Post 577498)
Maybe that means we can still get decent mileage for commuting and such, but have that extra oomph for the track and autocross.

Yeah, I really like that I would still be able to drive normally until I wanted the power. It's not as if it is difficult to keep the FR-S at higher RPMs through the gears if you want to.

I do want to see more options though. I am STILL waiting to see anyone put a power chart out for a PD supercharger on this car.


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