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brkn86 01-21-2018 04:41 PM

Clutch Spring Removal? Effects on TOB
 
Anyone who has removed their clutch spring. i heard that someone do not want to remove it because the spring is there to keep the clutch pedal up completely, in order to prevent the throwout bearing from touching the clutch disc; while no immediate harm is happening, you might be speeding up its wear and tear. i just want to confirm if that is true? for those who have have their spring removed and been on stock tob for a long time.

Thank you!

ApexEight 01-21-2018 06:37 PM

I don't think the spring removal affects TOB life. Without the spring, the pedal is not held all the way up like you said, and has the tinest bit of back and forth play. Even without the spring, I highly doubt the resting pedal is putting enough downward pressure to engage the TOB, and thus cause more wear. I've had my clutch spring out for 5 months now.

Ultramaroon 01-21-2018 07:16 PM

I think it's way more important to understand the clutch operating system well enough to decide.

nico_rsx 01-21-2018 09:49 PM

If you're talking about the spring in the pedal mecanism, I'm pretty sure it's actually pressing the pedal DOWN (in order to help press the pedal), and not holding it up.

Spuds 01-21-2018 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon (Post 3031413)
I think it's way more important to understand the clutch operating system well enough to decide.

Idk about you, but my clutch runs CentOS 5. ;)

humfrz 01-21-2018 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3031459)
Idk about you, but my clutch runs CentOS 5. ;)

:slap: ........that's for making me look that up!


:D


humfrz

strat61caster 01-21-2018 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3031459)
Idk about you, but my clutch runs CentOS 5. ;)

http://theinstructionlimit.com/wp-co...ssic-park.jpeg

Spuds 01-21-2018 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humfrz (Post 3031461)
:slap: ........that's for making me look that up!


:D


humfrz

But you learned a thing today! :clap:

humfrz 01-21-2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3031465)
But you learned a thing today! :clap:

Well, ya ....... but, I will forget it by bedtime ...... :(

Like mrs humfrz says to me "every day is a new day for you, isn't it Roger".

:confused0068:


humfrz

Ultramaroon 01-21-2018 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spuds (Post 3031459)
Idk about you, but my clutch runs CentOS 5. ;)

lol

I had to read that a couple times before I snapped in. Well played. :cheers:

brkn86 01-22-2018 08:18 PM

Is there anyone who has removed their clutch spring and seen any issues down the road?

carsebuco 01-22-2018 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brkn86 (Post 3031958)
Is there anyone who has removed their clutch spring and seen any issues down the road?

The roads over here in AZ have many issues, but I doubt it's because I flicked my clutch spring off the window while driving to work that day...

Joyride86 01-22-2018 09:12 PM

I haven't and I'm 2.5 years in.

ermax 01-22-2018 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico_rsx (Post 3031449)
If you're talking about the spring in the pedal mecanism, I'm pretty sure it's actually pressing the pedal DOWN (in order to help press the pedal), and not holding it up.


It does both actually. The spring expands pressing the pedal up. Then as you press down on the pedal it compresses the spring until it pivots into the other direction and then starts expanding again helping press the pedal the rest of the way to the floor. If you don't adjust the engagement point after the spring removal the pedal will droop a little. I could actually see how it could put a little pressure on the TOB. The question is, is it enough pressure to make contact with the TOB. Hmmm.

That clutch engagement adjustment could also be dangerous if people preload it too much. That would probably be worse than the spring removal itself.

Perfect solution would probably be a replacement spring that has enough force to hold the pedal up but not enough to assist (mask) the pressure plate.

I did the spring but never messed with the engagement. I kind of like it better without the spring but wasn't as blown away as some others have been. Now that I've had it removed for a while I am tempted to put it back in and see if I like it better in stock form.


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