Official FT-86 Specs / Info Thread
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Length: 163.78 inches Width: 69.29 inches Height: 48.19 inches Wheelbase: 101.18 inches Powertrain / Drivetrain / Chassis / Suspension: Subaru-derived 2.0L boxer (D-4S direct/port injection combo system) Rear-Wheel-Drive Rides on a modified Subaru Impreza platform Front strut, double wishbone rear, 225/40/19 tires all around. 4 pot brakes front and 2 pot rear. Other Info: - Designed by Toyota's ED2 styling studio in France. - Concept version to make public debut at 2009 Tokyo Motor Show. - Production model to be shown in 2010. - Sales expected to begin in late 2011. - The concept car's color is called "Shoujyouhi Red" - the traditional red color of a Japanese monkey's backside. - To be manufactured at Subaru Plant @ Gunma - Chief engineer: Tetsuya Tada |
If anyone has any info not posted in the list above, please feel free to post it up and I'll add it to the list.
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Saw this posted by My86 in the video thread -- "front strut, double wishbone rear, 225/40/19 tires all around. 4 pot brakes front and 2 pot rear."
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Not sure if you want to add this...
Engine is going to be D-4S based on the GT video speculation. It will have both port and direct injection. |
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Found some info on the brakes. They're 4-pot calipers.
Never heard of ADVICS before so looked it up. Turns out their a brake system company created in 2001. It's a joint venture between Aisin Seiki Co., DENSO Corp. Sumitomo Electric Industries, and Toyota Motor Corp. |
Buncha great info so far thanx. Any significance to this concept being designed in their ED2 european studio? What other cars have been designed out of there.
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Wonder how they decide which design studio to use though |
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Hmmm.. Wonder what PCD they would follow. 5x100 (old suby spec) 5x114.3 (supra spec) |
From the motortrend article Black FT-86 posted in another thread, some info on # of concept designs out there
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Added suspension/wheels info:
Front strut, double wishbone rear, 225/40/19 tires all around. 4 pot brakes front and 2 pot rear. |
Damn, 19"?
Not much tire selection and they are all seriously expensive. I would have expected a 17 inch wheel. How big are the discs going to be? |
While it would be nice to dream, I wouldn't expect those brakes and 19s to make it to production. Probably 17s for the wheels and regular 4 wheel discs for the brakes.
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18" wheels will probably end up being the compromise size between handling and looks. |
Yup... I think the 17s will fit well, but I'd guess a lot of people will end up swapping for 18s.
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I would keep the 17s. Less expensive, more tire options, and most importantly less weight.
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I'd rather it come stock with 16s... Keep those rims for snow tires and get 17s or 18s for the rest of the year. Just please DON'T give us huge wheelwells that will fit 20s with a 2" drop. Then it looks ridiculous for the other 99% of the people that keep their stock wheels (or something similar to stock).
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i'd want 16" wheels personally, that is if the brakes and rotors worked well enough at that size.
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If the weight is right, even 15" wheels can be enough for the discs. I would love the wheels to be as small as possible, 16" would be good, 15" would be ideal for my driving style. A RWD sports car must be capable of going sideways too...:burnrubber: |
I am hoping for 16s so I can buy cheap slicks, but 17 would not be to bad.
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Whatever size is fine with me. I'll be upgrading to 18's anyway.
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anyone know any prices, colors that will come out?
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Don't know if anyone caught this tidbit, but here's some potentially bleak news on the concept's weight from 7tune:
http://www.7tune.com/hot-off-the-pre...ow-sneak-peek/ Adam says: October 22, 2009 at 2:56 pm I believe the engineer I spoke to said the car weighed 1300kg. They wouldn’t let us shoot under the bonnet unfortunately. They did start the car up and give it a rev but it didn’t sound like a boxer at all. I own an STi and know the sound well so I’m not sure what’s going on there. Also, despite my insistence, there was no confirmation on turbocharging. At the moment it’s going to remain N/A apparently. Also interesting that it apparently didn't have the boxer in it, so no idea what impact that has on the weight... I imagine a less flashy interior would drop the weight down a bit too, but still, 2860 lbs is quite a bit porkier than I would have liked to hear :thumbdown: Toyota better start hacking off some more material from that car... |
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Nice to hear Toyota is staying true to the original car, and not giving into the turbo heads. I'd take that weight estimate with a grain of salt honestly. 2800lbs? For a car THAT size? Its almost like they were trying their very hardest to get it to weigh as much as possible. Sounds way off. |
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How could it be 2800 pounds? The trunk must be full of dumbells. :bonk: |
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You guys do know that the S2000, which seems to be the car most similar in size and dimensions as the toyobaru concept, weighs over 2800 lbs, right? This is what I predicted.
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We're talking about an entry level car in the toyobaru, costing approximately 21 large. Newsflash: it's going to have heavy, standardized parts on it from the existing Toyo or Subaru parts bins to keep costs down. There is no getting around that. |
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Well maybe if it revved to 9k 240hp wouldnt be bad. :clap: |
^^^ That doesn't mean there won't be a TRD or aftermarket FI option...
Yeah... I'm going to to dial back my enthusiasm a bit until I hear something more encouraging regarding power:weight. One bright note: It could be Toyota has not indicated the weight of the concept because they intend to make the production version significantly lighter -- let's hope so. |
The weight wont bother me. 2800lb will be ok as long as the car handles well and not like a muscle car. Toyota knows that they have to keep the weight down so maybe 2800lb is not a for sure thing.
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I'm not saying S2k is overweight. Just saying that S2k & GC8 (JDM ver) weight bout the same. S2k = FR NA 2L 9RPM 240hp. GC8 AWD 2L close to 8RPM 280hp. Just feels that S2k should of break 2800... but all those statements are just my selfish thoughts. |
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Electrical mechanism to lower the roof in 6 secs??? |
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