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Hachiroku 10-10-2009 03:01 PM

Official FT-86 Specs / Info Thread
 
Dimensions:

Length: 163.78 inches
Width: 69.29 inches
Height: 48.19 inches
Wheelbase: 101.18 inches

Powertrain / Drivetrain / Chassis / Suspension:

Subaru-derived 2.0L boxer (D-4S direct/port injection combo system)
Rear-Wheel-Drive
Rides on a modified Subaru Impreza platform
Front strut, double wishbone rear, 225/40/19 tires all around.
4 pot brakes front and 2 pot rear.

Other Info:

- Designed by Toyota's ED2 styling studio in France.
- Concept version to make public debut at 2009 Tokyo Motor Show.
- Production model to be shown in 2010.
- Sales expected to begin in late 2011.
- The concept car's color is called "Shoujyouhi Red" - the traditional red color of a Japanese monkey's backside.
- To be manufactured at Subaru Plant @ Gunma
- Chief engineer: Tetsuya Tada

Hachiroku 10-10-2009 03:02 PM

If anyone has any info not posted in the list above, please feel free to post it up and I'll add it to the list.

Kenji 10-10-2009 11:17 PM

Saw this posted by My86 in the video thread -- "front strut, double wishbone rear, 225/40/19 tires all around. 4 pot brakes front and 2 pot rear."

86Fan 10-11-2009 12:01 AM

Not sure if you want to add this...
Engine is going to be D-4S based on the GT video speculation.
It will have both port and direct injection.

Hachiroku 10-11-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86Fan (Post 25)
Not sure if you want to add this...
Engine is going to be D-4S based on the GT video speculation.
It will have both port and direct injection.

Added! Thanks :)

My86 10-12-2009 09:13 AM

Found some info on the brakes. They're 4-pot calipers.

Never heard of ADVICS before so looked it up. Turns out their a brake system company created in 2001. It's a joint venture between Aisin Seiki Co., DENSO Corp. Sumitomo Electric Industries, and Toyota Motor Corp.

Ground N Pound 10-15-2009 05:04 PM

Buncha great info so far thanx. Any significance to this concept being designed in their ED2 european studio? What other cars have been designed out of there.

OldSkoolToys 10-15-2009 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ground N Pound (Post 448)
Buncha great info so far thanx. Any significance to this concept being designed in their ED2 european studio? What other cars have been designed out of there.

Off the top of my head, the iQ.

gatchaman 10-16-2009 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ground N Pound (Post 448)
Buncha great info so far thanx. Any significance to this concept being designed in their ED2 european studio? What other cars have been designed out of there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 464)
Off the top of my head, the iQ.

The Lexus SC430 also.
Wonder how they decide which design studio to use though

jamwyn 10-16-2009 02:17 AM

PCD?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenji (Post 22)
Saw this posted by My86 in the video thread -- "front strut, double wishbone rear, 225/40/19 tires all around. 4 pot brakes front and 2 pot rear."


Hmmm.. Wonder what PCD they would follow.
5x100 (old suby spec)
5x114.3 (supra spec)

My86 10-16-2009 11:50 PM

From the motortrend article Black FT-86 posted in another thread, some info on # of concept designs out there

Quote:

A source close to Toyota tells us that while the FT-86's exterior design is sourced from Toyota Europe Design in France, two other prototypes also exist, one penned by head office in Toyota City and the other created by Calty Design Research in California. "Build quality is very high, and it may already look ready for the road, but don't be surprised if the exterior changes, because this car is not finished, not by a long way," our source says.

Hachiroku 10-18-2009 09:15 PM

Added suspension/wheels info:

Front strut, double wishbone rear, 225/40/19 tires all around.
4 pot brakes front and 2 pot rear.

#87 10-19-2009 02:13 PM

Damn, 19"?

Not much tire selection and they are all seriously expensive. I would have expected a 17 inch wheel.

How big are the discs going to be?

ack154 10-19-2009 03:49 PM

While it would be nice to dream, I wouldn't expect those brakes and 19s to make it to production. Probably 17s for the wheels and regular 4 wheel discs for the brakes.

JDMinc 10-19-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ack154 (Post 821)
While it would be nice to dream, I wouldn't expect those brakes and 19s to make it to production. Probably 17s for the wheels and regular 4 wheel discs for the brakes.

I'm perfectly fine with 17's for factory wheels. It's a small car so factory 17's will look nice anyway. 19's are probably a bit big for this car and will likely negatively affect handling anyway, especially if it's not going to be coming with a ton of power. Do S2000s comes with 17" factory wheels?

18" wheels will probably end up being the compromise size between handling and looks.

ack154 10-19-2009 04:11 PM

Yup... I think the 17s will fit well, but I'd guess a lot of people will end up swapping for 18s.

FT///R86 10-21-2009 02:04 PM

I would keep the 17s. Less expensive, more tire options, and most importantly less weight.

dante 10-21-2009 03:48 PM

I'd rather it come stock with 16s... Keep those rims for snow tires and get 17s or 18s for the rest of the year. Just please DON'T give us huge wheelwells that will fit 20s with a 2" drop. Then it looks ridiculous for the other 99% of the people that keep their stock wheels (or something similar to stock).

ichitaka05 10-21-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamwyn (Post 506)
Hmmm.. Wonder what PCD they would follow.
5x100 (old suby spec)
5x114.3 (supra spec)

I'm betting on 5x114.3

Quote:

Originally Posted by dante (Post 1063)
I'd rather it come stock with 16s... Keep those rims for snow tires and get 17s or 18s for the rest of the year. Just please DON'T give us huge wheelwells that will fit 20s with a 2" drop. Then it looks ridiculous for the other 99% of the people that keep their stock wheels (or something similar to stock).

Hm... If they keep the 4/2 pot brakes, it's gonna be hard. So far I know, GC8 was only ones that had 16" 4/2 pot brakes stock... but I do agree that 16s would be nice, but I prefer 17s in both summer & winter.

scape 10-21-2009 05:32 PM

i'd want 16" wheels personally, that is if the brakes and rotors worked well enough at that size.

Blokatos 10-22-2009 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scape (Post 1093)
i'd want 16" wheels personally, that is if the brakes and rotors worked well enough at that size.


If the weight is right, even 15" wheels can be enough for the discs.

I would love the wheels to be as small as possible, 16" would be good, 15" would be ideal for my driving style.

A RWD sports car must be capable of going sideways too...:burnrubber:

Richardcranium419 10-22-2009 12:39 PM

I am hoping for 16s so I can buy cheap slicks, but 17 would not be to bad.

S2KtoFT86 10-22-2009 02:30 PM

Whatever size is fine with me. I'll be upgrading to 18's anyway.

ichitaka05 10-22-2009 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 1233)
Whatever size is fine with me. I'll be upgrading to 18's anyway.

Or down grade (if they keep the stock 19s).

S2KtoFT86 10-22-2009 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 1274)
Or down grade (if they keep the stock 19s).

Touche. ;)

DanZilla 10-22-2009 06:59 PM

anyone know any prices, colors that will come out?

Jordo! 10-23-2009 04:59 PM

Don't know if anyone caught this tidbit, but here's some potentially bleak news on the concept's weight from 7tune:

http://www.7tune.com/hot-off-the-pre...ow-sneak-peek/
Adam says:
October 22, 2009 at 2:56 pm
I believe the engineer I spoke to said the car weighed 1300kg. They wouldn’t let us shoot under the bonnet unfortunately. They did start the car up and give it a rev but it didn’t sound like a boxer at all. I own an STi and know the sound well so I’m not sure what’s going on there. Also, despite my insistence, there was no confirmation on turbocharging. At the moment it’s going to remain N/A apparently.

Also interesting that it apparently didn't have the boxer in it, so no idea what impact that has on the weight...

I imagine a less flashy interior would drop the weight down a bit too, but still, 2860 lbs is quite a bit porkier than I would have liked to hear :thumbdown:

Toyota better start hacking off some more material from that car...

S2KtoFT86 10-23-2009 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1463)
Also, despite my insistence, there was no confirmation on turbocharging. At the moment it’s going to remain N/A apparently.

Bah!!:mad0260:

OldSkoolToys 10-23-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S2KtoFT86 (Post 1472)
Bah!!:mad0260:

HAHA!


Nice to hear Toyota is staying true to the original car, and not giving into the turbo heads.

I'd take that weight estimate with a grain of salt honestly. 2800lbs? For a car THAT size? Its almost like they were trying their very hardest to get it to weigh as much as possible. Sounds way off.

MR2fan 10-23-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 1473)
HAHA!


Nice to hear Toyota is staying true to the original car, and not giving into the turbo heads.

I'd take that weight estimate with a grain of salt honestly. 2800lbs? For a car THAT size? Its almost like they were trying their very hardest to get it to weigh as much as possible. Sounds way off.

Well if it's true, it's got 2 years to diet and lose 200 pounds :)

How could it be 2800 pounds? The trunk must be full of dumbells. :bonk:

OldSkoolToys 10-23-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MR2fan (Post 1481)
Well if it's true, it's got 2 years to diet and lose 200 pounds :)

How could it be 2800 pounds? The trunk must be full of dumbells. :bonk:

Or the real inline 4 made by toyota that'll be put in this car maybe?

ichitaka05 10-23-2009 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jordo! (Post 1463)
I believe the engineer I spoke to said the car weighed 1300kg.

Are they sure it's 1300kg? Not 1200kg?

White Comet 10-23-2009 06:52 PM

You guys do know that the S2000, which seems to be the car most similar in size and dimensions as the toyobaru concept, weighs over 2800 lbs, right? This is what I predicted.

ichitaka05 10-23-2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Comet (Post 1503)
You guys do know that the S2000, which seems to be the car most similar in size and dimensions as the toyobaru concept, weighs 2800 lbs, right? This is what I predicted.

& you do know that S2k is convertible so they had to stiffen up the chassis more than coupe, but c'on we can wish for 2600lbs.

White Comet 10-23-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 1505)
& you do know that S2k is convertible so they had to stiffen up the chassis more than coupe, but c'on we can wish for 2600lbs.

I knew someone was gonna answer with this. Ordinarily, you'd be right. However, the S2K was designed from the ground up as a convertible, so the chassis is plenty stiff from the original design. And considering how well tuned it is from the factory, you know Honda did everything it's power to keep the weight down, but not at the expense of making expensive new parts that would drive it's price up.

We're talking about an entry level car in the toyobaru, costing approximately 21 large. Newsflash: it's going to have heavy, standardized parts on it from the existing Toyo or Subaru parts bins to keep costs down. There is no getting around that.

DanZilla 10-23-2009 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys (Post 1473)
HAHA!


Nice to hear Toyota is staying true to the original car, and not giving into the turbo heads.

I'd take that weight estimate with a grain of salt honestly. 2800lbs? For a car THAT size? Its almost like they were trying their very hardest to get it to weigh as much as possible. Sounds way off.

If it was turbo, Sales would skyrocket over just being N/A IMO


Well maybe if it revved to 9k 240hp wouldnt be bad. :clap:

Jordo! 10-23-2009 07:11 PM

^^^ That doesn't mean there won't be a TRD or aftermarket FI option...

Yeah... I'm going to to dial back my enthusiasm a bit until I hear something more encouraging regarding power:weight.

One bright note: It could be Toyota has not indicated the weight of the concept because they intend to make the production version significantly lighter -- let's hope so.

FT///R86 10-24-2009 01:47 AM

The weight wont bother me. 2800lb will be ok as long as the car handles well and not like a muscle car. Toyota knows that they have to keep the weight down so maybe 2800lb is not a for sure thing.

ichitaka05 10-24-2009 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Comet (Post 1509)
I knew someone was gonna answer with this. Ordinarily, you'd be right. However, the S2K was designed from the ground up as a convertible, so the chassis is plenty stiff from the original design. And considering how well tuned it is from the factory, you know Honda did everything it's power to keep the weight down, but not at the expense of making expensive new parts that would drive it's price up.

We're talking about an entry level car in the toyobaru, costing approximately 21 large. Newsflash: it's going to have heavy, standardized parts on it from the existing Toyo or Subaru parts bins to keep costs down. There is no getting around that.

I know Honda did everything it's power to keep the weight down for S2k. you're saying that if S2k was coupe and not convertible, it would of weight less or cost that stop em from make S2k lighter?

I'm not saying S2k is overweight. Just saying that S2k & GC8 (JDM ver) weight bout the same. S2k = FR NA 2L 9RPM 240hp. GC8 AWD 2L close to 8RPM 280hp. Just feels that S2k should of break 2800... but all those statements are just my selfish thoughts.

Blokatos 10-24-2009 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 1590)
I know Honda did everything it's power to keep the weight down for S2k. you're saying that if S2k was coupe and not convertible, it would of weight less or cost that stop em from make S2k lighter?

No, Honda didn't do everything in it's power to keep the weight down for S2k.
Electrical mechanism to lower the roof in 6 secs???


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