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redlined600 12-10-2023 05:30 PM

Project mu club racer part numbers
 
When I search, it seems there are a couple different part numbers attributed to the frs/brz

PCR09F914
PCR09F914AD -I can't find exactly what is different about these other than they "have characteristics between the 09 and 999."
PCR09F916

Can anyone explain the differences between these?

EndlessAzure 12-11-2023 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by redlined600 (Post 3598202)
When I search, it seems there are a couple different part numbers attributed to the frs/brz

PCR09F914
PCR09F914AD -I can't find exactly what is different about these other than they "have characteristics between the 09 and 999."
PCR09F916

Can anyone explain the differences between these?

  • PCR09 - Identifer for Club Racer product line
  • X### - Identifier for pad shape (X = F (Front) or R (Rear), ### = shape identifier code. In this case, Front Pad shape 914 and Front Pad shape 916)
  • AD - Identifier for "Advance," an alternate higher performing compound composition for Club Racer front pads that's similar to PMu Racing 999


Base brakes /w vented rear disk (most common North American trim): F914 & R916
Base brakes /w solid rear disk (often found in Japan/Asia base trims): F914 & R914

Brembo brakes (both PP and GT in OEM rotor size): F506 & R906
- F506 code supersedes F906, but you will still find listings online for the older shape code. Both are the same shape, common to Evo, STi, Cadillac, and many other Brembo 326mm front systems


See: https://www.project-mu.co.jp/en/matching.html

redlined600 12-11-2023 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EndlessAzure (Post 3598229)
  • PCR09 - Identifer for Club Racer product line
  • X### - Identifier for pad shape (X = F (Front) or R (Rear), ### = shape identifier code. In this case, Front Pad shape 914 and Front Pad shape 916)
  • AD - Identifier for "Advance," an alternate higher performing compound composition for Club Racer front pads that's similar to PMu Racing 999


Base brakes /w vented rear disk (most common North American trim): F914 & R916
Base brakes /w solid rear disk (often found in Japan/Asia base trims): F914 & R914

Brembo brakes (both PP and GT in OEM rotor size): F506 & R906
- F506 code supersedes F906, but you will still find listings online for the older shape code. Both are the same shape, common to Evo, STi, Cadillac, and many other Brembo 326mm front systems


See: https://www.project-mu.co.jp/en/matching.html

All good info, and most of that seems pretty obvious. Thanks.

I think I was getting confused because there are sites that have the F916 listed as FRS/BRZ fitment
For example, pulled from the first search I could find, however there are many sites that list them.
F916: https://goturbo.net/pmupcr09f916-pro...pads-pcr09f916


Anyone know what is supposed to be different with the advanced? any description I've seen is pretty vauge.

CSG Mike 12-11-2023 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by redlined600 (Post 3598239)
All good info, and most of that seems pretty obvious. Thanks.

I think I was getting confused because there are sites that have the F916 listed as FRS/BRZ fitment
For example, pulled from the first search I could find, however there are many sites that list them.
F916: https://goturbo.net/pmupcr09f916-pro...pads-pcr09f916


Anyone know what is supposed to be different with the advanced? any description I've seen is pretty vauge.

It's a different compound that's more durable than the standard Club Racer. You won't find any more specific info than that online, because PMU literally doesn't publish any.

What exactly are you trying to accomplish or find? The CR and CRA are effectively interchangeable.

EndlessAzure 12-12-2023 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redlined600 (Post 3598239)
All good info, and most of that seems pretty obvious. Thanks.

I think I was getting confused because there are sites that have the F916 listed as FRS/BRZ fitment
For example, pulled from the first search I could find, however there are many sites that list them.
F916: https://goturbo.net/pmupcr09f916-pro...pads-pcr09f916


Anyone know what is supposed to be different with the advanced? any description I've seen is pretty vauge.


Advance is just a more aggressive compound than the Standard "Club Racer" brake pad, option only for the front pads. Based on the description only which states it's supposed to incorporate characteristics of the Project Mu Racing 999 pad, the Advance variant probably has stronger initial bite and higher heat capacity than the Standard compound. You probably trade away pad/disk life and dust to achieve that.
  • You can read about people's impression of the Racing 999 pad, and draw some of your own conclusions on how Project Mu was thinking about adjusting the Club Racer pad to meet some the 999 pad characteristics in this thread: https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23680

The rear pads are only offered in the Standard compound, but they are designed to be used along with the Advance or Standard front pad. I've used the Advance Front/Standard Rear set personally. Strong bite, lacks some finesse/control, but otherwise a nice starter pad that holds up well to heat and abuse.

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Project Mu doesn't talk to Club Racers much because it's sold as an overseas product only (e.g. non-Japanese markets like North America). Project Mu focuses more on their Racing line (N1 / 777 / 999 / one-make) for domestic Japanese sales. I have a feeling Nexzter Brake Thailand technically produces Club Racers for Project Mu under license, while the other mainline pads Project Mu produces in their own factories.


In my opinion, it's almost not worth it to buy Club Racer pads anymore because of how much price has evolved over time (unless this is your first set of pads/first time tracking). Club Racers used to be almost half the price of Racing 999, but TODAY you can get a set of the higher performing Racing 999 pad for not too much more. You do compromise a little bit if you do that though because Club Racers are a little friendlier to use as a daily pad and is easier to use with a low grip tire.


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Don't overthink pad shapes. Trust what Project Mu publishes, not what retailers/distributors put on product listings. It's easy to fumble a copy-paste or put down incorrect info.

You can see how the two pads differ in shape by looking at them side-by-side. It's clear they are not the same.
https://www.project-mu.co.jp/padprice/F916.pdf
https://www.project-mu.co.jp/padprice/F914.pdf


Stick to what Project Mu states. Use F914

CSG Mike 12-12-2023 12:21 AM

For clarity, for north american cars:

F914 front
R916 rear

redlined600 12-12-2023 09:54 AM

Primarily, I wanted to be sure I got the right part numbers.

Thanks guys!


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