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jthornton1993 10-13-2014 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fang_gt86 (Post 1981301)
The whole point of the Griffon concept is keeping the reliability of the stock powerplant, beef up overall susspension, reduce weight as much as possible, lessen air drag, and faster than a $240k+ car like the Ferrari 458 Italia...

This is in the same Price range as a Hellcat pushing 707hp. This is IMO crap.

Quentin 10-13-2014 10:05 AM

Toyota 86 14R60 unveiled
 
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Originally Posted by jthornton1993 (Post 1981980)
This is in the same Price range as a Hellcat pushing 707hp. This is IMO crap.


This is not a U.S. market vehicle. This is not a mass production trim. Comparing it to anything but short run models available in the Japanese market is completely useless and futile. Please learn to comprehend what you are reading.


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jthornton1993 10-13-2014 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 1982013)
This is not a U.S. market vehicle. This is not a mass production trim. Comparing it to anything but short run models available in the Japanese market is completely useless and futile. Please learn to comprehend what you are reading.


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quite aware of what I'm reading. I don't care if they only made one for the Japanese market, my opinion that this is crap will still remain.

dizzario 10-13-2014 11:43 AM

I love how everyone here is an expert on numerous tracks around the globe. You guys are...wait. Had to edit because name calling isn't allowed on this forum.

NemesisPrime909 10-13-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ichitaka05 (Post 1980553)
No it won't. Why/proof? No proof, just my guess

sure sure it's only speculation on my end anyways.

My reason for thinking this was the course of history.

the 10 series and Mongram series, no exterior upgrades aside from the HIDs, Sharkfin antenna, and in the case on the 10 series, the unique color.

the RS 1.0 was inspired by the first TRD 86

http://www.forcegt.com/wp-content/up...ta-GT86-09.jpg http://www.scion.com/blog/wp-content...k_04-11-14.jpg

and since the RS models are different every year it leads me to belive they'll use the griffon as inspiration for the 2.0 unless they use the GT-S kit instead.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...ero-kit-sm.jpg

I figure it's only a matter of time.

Snoopyalien24 10-13-2014 02:28 PM

It looks... Alright..

Looks like a 400hp monster.

It's like Toyota likes making cars that look fast but are meh and Subaru makes cars that go fast but look meh.

They should colab for the next RS or Special Edition..

ichitaka05 10-13-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NemesisPrime909 (Post 1982310)
sure sure it's only speculation on my end anyways.

My reason for thinking this was the course of history.

the 10 series and Mongram series, no exterior upgrades aside from the HIDs, Sharkfin antenna, and in the case on the 10 series, the unique color.

the RS 1.0 was inspired by the first TRD 86

http://www.forcegt.com/wp-content/up...ta-GT86-09.jpg http://www.scion.com/blog/wp-content...k_04-11-14.jpg

and since the RS models are different every year it leads me to belive they'll use the griffon as inspiration for the 2.0 unless they use the GT-S kit instead.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/cm/roada...ero-kit-sm.jpg

I figure it's only a matter of time.

Hm... idc bout RS tbh... BUT I can't wait to see '17 model

just sayin'

Badasi12b 10-13-2014 03:54 PM

$60,000!?!?!? Are they serious!? That's a 2015 Corvette a 2015 Z28 Camaro and a Challenger HELLCAT!!!!

Quentin 10-13-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Badasi12b (Post 1982436)
$60,000!?!?!? Are they serious!? That's a 2015 Corvette a 2015 Z28 Camaro and a Challenger HELLCAT!!!!


Actually, no, not $60k. They aren't selling it in USD.


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jthornton1993 10-13-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Badasi12b (Post 1982436)
$60,000!?!?!? Are they serious!? That's a 2015 Corvette a 2015 Z28 Camaro and a Challenger HELLCAT!!!!

Exactly

abraxis 10-13-2014 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jthornton1993 (Post 1981980)
This is in the same Price range as a Hellcat pushing 707hp. This is IMO crap.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badasi12b (Post 1982436)
$60,000!?!?!? Are they serious!? That's a 2015 Corvette a 2015 Z28 Camaro and a Challenger HELLCAT!!!!

It is total crap!! For $60,000 you could almost buy a VW Phaeton!! ZOMG!!!!

:rolleyes:

Maybe a muscle car coming up in some people's minds instead of a Porsche means they probably bought the wrong car.

That said, for the money I do think it's unfortunate that they cut some obvious corners on this. It's obvious based on the limited 100 units and Japan only sales that this might be a move to get the 86 into certain racing classes.

I hope part#'s do eventually show up.

bunny86 10-13-2014 07:46 PM

The base price of a GT86 in the UK is £25k, the 14R60 is priced at £36k. I have done a rough total up of the upgrades on the 14R60 and I am up to £14k already. That's without the modified transmission, the magnesium wheels as well as a few other bits and pieces and of course, labour.

Even if all the parts were available you could not replicate this model for anything like the (low) price they are selling it.

Quentin 10-13-2014 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bunny86 (Post 1982718)
The base price of a GT86 in the UK is £25k, the 14R60 is priced at £36k. I have done a rough total up of the upgrades on the 14R60 and I am up to £14k already. That's without the modified transmission, the magnesium wheels as well as a few other bits and pieces and of course, labour.

Even if all the parts were available you could not replicate this model for anything like the (low) price they are selling it.


Yep, the forged magnesium wheels, coilovers, carbon roof, one piece seats, brake kit, mechanical LSD, gearbox, etc cost a shitload of money. Hell, you are $8k in to just build a semi-competitive STX class auto cross car. People here think you can build a race car for nothing.

abraxis 10-13-2014 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Quentin (Post 1982830)
People here think you can build a race car for nothing.

Well some people here seem to think a race car is a 4000lb whale with 707hp and a warranty from Dodge.


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