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Kaotic Lazagna 09-23-2018 06:41 PM

Speakers For Better Sound Quality
 
So when ever I drive my FR-S, I get reminded on how poor the sound quality is from the factory system. I replaced all the speakers and HU in my daily driver (Yaris), so I know it's not a fair comparison...but with that said, I want to get better sound quality in the FR-S without replacing the HU or adding any amps. I'm thinking of starting with the dash speakers. So my question is, which of these two speakers would be a better choice for me? My music sources are mainly radio and USB with the occasional BT. I have a simple 8" Bazooka tube in the trunk to fill in some of the bass as well.

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_108R40...fx.html?tp=105

or

https://www.crutchfield.com/p_108PER...0m.html?tp=105

From what I've read in this sub-section, the mounting depth should not exceed 2", which neither of these do. But I will have to cut off two of the mounting tabs on them. I also see that people have used both sizes as well.

B-R-Z 09-23-2018 07:46 PM

I went with the below and IMO my system sounds great. I used the subaruaudio.net speaker adapters to mount these in the dash and doors. I would look into using an amplifier, I have a Soundstream RUB4.500 powering these, 4 x 75w @ 4 ohm:

Dayton Reference Series RS180 7" in doors
Dayton Reference Series RS75 3" in dash

Mr.ac 09-23-2018 08:04 PM

Well, if I'm not mistaken the frs doesn't have tweeters right?
So I'll go with ones with the tweeters.

Also those Dayton woofers are great bang for the buck. I don't have them on my BRZ but I have them on my old MR2 and a pair for my garage.

Kaotic Lazagna 09-23-2018 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by B-R-Z (Post 3136599)
I went with the below and IMO my system sounds great. I used the subaruaudio.net speaker adapters to mount these in the dash and doors. I would look into using an amplifier, I have a Soundstream RUB4.500 powering these, 4 x 75w @ 4 ohm:

Dayton Reference Series RS180 7" in doors
Dayton Reference Series RS75 3" in dash

Like how they're less than half the price of the Reference speakers, I'll have to keep those in mind. However, I do not want to run an amp, so if that's the only way those Daytons would sound good, then it would be out of the question.



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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3136605)
Well, if I'm not mistaken the frs doesn't have tweeters right?
So I'll go with ones with the tweeters.

Also those Dayton woofers are great bang for the buck. I don't have them on my BRZ but I have them on my old MR2 and a pair for my garage.

The FR-S has tweeters in the dash, thought the BRZ did as well???

Mr.ac 09-24-2018 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3136613)
The FR-S has tweeters in the dash, thought the BRZ did as well???

I might be off, but I do know that on my BRZ it has the 3" speaker and a 1" tweeter in the dash.

Not sure if the FRS has both, or lacks the 1" tweeter. I don't know some where I got missed informed.

Kaotic Lazagna 09-24-2018 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3136680)
I might be off, but I do know that on my BRZ it has the 3" speaker and a 1" tweeter in the dash.

Not sure if the FRS has both, or lacks the 1" tweeter. I don't know some where I got missed informed.

I thought both cars had a tweeter and a mid in the dash, woofers in the door, and another mid in the rear with the only difference being how much wattage is being pushed to the speakers?????

Bonburner 09-24-2018 02:59 AM

https://www.crutchfield.com/Car/outfitmycar/mycar.aspx

Kaotic Lazagna 09-24-2018 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonburner (Post 3136689)

I've spoken to them (pretty much said what I said in the first post), and they said 3.5" is too small without the use of brackets (but some people/sources say the factory speakers are 3.5").

Chimera 09-24-2018 08:05 AM

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These are a direct fit in the factory 3.5 bracket, with Minor trimming to remove the factory speaker, as it's glued in. They are very good, but don't have the best off axis response, so there might be better. That said, this is what I have in my car now.

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...MaApb-EALw_wcB

Edit, in the picture is a test fit, I did screw them down before finishing

Kaotic Lazagna 09-24-2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Chimera (Post 3136714)
These are a direct fit in the factory 3.5 bracket, with Minor trimming to remove the factory speaker, as it's glued in. They are very good, but don't have the best off axis response, so there might be better. That said, this is what I have in my car now.

https://www.parts-express.com/dayton...MaApb-EALw_wcB

Edit, in the picture is a test fit, I did screw them down before finishing

Thanks for letting me know it's pretty much a drop in.

Are you running them off just the HU?

Chimera 09-24-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3136718)
Thanks for letting me know it's pretty much a drop in.

Are you running them off just the HU?

I am not, however their power requirements are low enough that you could. I'm running them at 75w crossed at 250hz and 5000hz. Not ideal, but they work in this range pretty well.

Bonburner 09-24-2018 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3136704)
I've spoken to them (pretty much said what I said in the first post), and they said 3.5" is too small without the use of brackets (but some people/sources say the factory speakers are 3.5").

that was meant for mr.ac regarding the speakers :lol:

Kaotic Lazagna 09-24-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Chimera (Post 3136722)
I am not, however their power requirements are low enough that you could. I'm running them at 75w crossed at 250hz and 5000hz. Not ideal, but they work in this range pretty well.

I see. What other speakers have you replaced so far?


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Originally Posted by Bonburner (Post 3136736)
that was meant for mr.ac regarding the speakers :lol:

I knew that, ummmm, I was just testing you, yeah, that, testing. :lol:

Chimera 09-24-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaotic Lazagna (Post 3136778)
I see. What other speakers have you replaced so far?



I've treated this car a little like a toy, and replaced every speaker.. multiple times, and traded with friends, and gave things away, or sold them. Built up as money became available. I learned a lot along the way and blew a lot of money on incremental improvements, and playing around.


Right atm I have alpine SPR-60c woofers and tweeters, and the Dayton audio 4" ref running on CDT audio EX-30 passive crossovers.


however, I just bought a set of JL C5 653 off another forum member, and am excited to give them a try. I have the JL audio stealthbox with the 10TW3 in it, and its pretty awesome.


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