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Skurj 03-26-2018 09:30 PM

Exhaust... lightweight and not stupid loud...
 
Likely been asked a ton of times...

Aiming to go from header back (EL with cat) looking for the lightest i can get, don't care single exit is fine, that won't be stupid loud as some tracks in the area have db limits...

Plan to use car for autox and time attack duty as finances permit...

At the same time, while i don't mind spending 1-2k on the header, I don't wish to spend another 2k+ on the rest made of Ti...

ajcarson11 03-26-2018 09:49 PM

CSG Touring86 exhaust. It'll handle all of your flow requirements while acting as a mild diffuser, mature exhaust note (won't bother neighbors, makes cold start very tame), and won't break the bank.

It's one of your best options for track db limits while maintaining flow.

Skurj 03-26-2018 10:35 PM

well that's a new one I have never heard of...

Summerwolf 03-26-2018 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ajcarson11 (Post 3064097)
CSG Touring86 exhaust. It'll handle all of your flow requirements while acting as a mild diffuser, mature exhaust note (won't bother neighbors, makes cold start very tame), and won't break the bank.

It's one of your best options for track db limits while maintaining flow.

36 lbs.....:iono:

RJasonKlein 03-26-2018 10:48 PM

I have a Blitz Nür Spec R stainless steel exhaust that I think may fit your requirements - it’s reasonably quiet, sounds great with my ACE 4-2-1 Type-A 350 equal length header, and is a lighter than most exhausts. Overall, it’s exceeded my expectations and I’m a pretty tough customer. Check out post numbers 8 and 9 in the following thread to read a little more about it and to see photos on and off my car:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3042298

ajcarson11 03-26-2018 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3064129)
36 lbs.....:iono:

That's lighter than stock -- keeping the noise down isn't going to be light. People get so caught up in saving 2 or 3 lbs... No way its going to matter. And if it really does, then you better have a lot more cash to burn.

Summerwolf 03-27-2018 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ajcarson11 (Post 3064163)
That's lighter than stock -- keeping the noise down isn't going to be light. People get so caught up in saving 2 or 3 lbs... No way its going to matter. And if it really does, then you better have a lot more cash to burn.

Sure, but there are lighter options that are reasonably priced and still keep the DB levels reasonable. Lighter does not neccesarilly mean loud or exotic materials.

Skurj 03-27-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RJasonKlein (Post 3064135)
I have a Blitz Nür Spec R stainless steel exhaust that I think may fit your requirements - it’s reasonably quiet, sounds great with my ACE 4-2-1 Type-A 350 equal length header, and is a lighter than most exhausts. Overall, it’s exceeded my expectations and I’m a pretty tough customer. Check out post numbers 8 and 9 in the following thread to read a little more about it and to see photos on and off my car:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3042298

That one was already on my shortlist, thanks

Submarinesonce 03-27-2018 12:49 PM

tanabe concept G is light and reasonably quiet if you keep a cat or 2...

stlgrym3 03-27-2018 01:22 PM

I recommended CSG touring as well. I’ve heard it in person and it sounded so subdue at idle with slight hinting of deep tone. I would’ve gotten that if I hadn’t installed the greddy sp supreme already.

strat61caster 03-27-2018 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3064238)
Sure, but there are lighter options that are reasonably priced and still keep the DB levels reasonable. Lighter does not neccesarilly mean loud or exotic materials.

Feel free to start suggesting them then...

:paddle:

Far as I can tell, <30 lbs for a catback and a catless header is a recipe for blowing sound at most venues.

finch1750 03-27-2018 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Submarinesonce (Post 3064379)
tanabe concept G is light and reasonably quiet if you keep a cat or 2...



You need 2, or possibly if 1 it has to be in the header. Catless header with catted front pipe is still loud AF

RJasonKlein 03-27-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Skurj (Post 3064264)
That one was already on my shortlist, thanks

Great - it’s a really good piece and worthy of consideration. One thing that should be noted (but is probably not a big deal for you as an autocrosser) is that without a diffuser to cover up the vacancy from removing the factory exhaust, aerodynamics at the rear are somewhat adversely affected. It’s not huge, but it is noticeable. In my opinion, particularly on a track car that sees high speed, that’s an area where the @CounterSpace Garage Spec MXP Touring86 has a real advantage over the Blitz Nür Spec R.

CSG Mike 03-27-2018 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Summerwolf (Post 3064238)
Sure, but there are lighter options that are reasonably priced and still keep the DB levels reasonable. Lighter does not neccesarilly mean loud or exotic materials.

Such as?

I'm all ears if there's another option that will pass a 90/96 dB test catless, other than the Laguna 90.

The Touring86 is already proven to support a 500hp level of flow. It's certainly not the lightest, but there's no way to reduce noise without weight.

It's kind of like having to add weight to add more braking thermal capacity.


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