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sw20kosh 01-11-2013 01:05 AM

Whiteline Com-c top mounts
 
I did a search but couldn't find it.

I remember reading some people having big problems with these? Clunking sounds etc. Is this still the case?

whataboutbob 01-11-2013 01:19 AM

I talked to the Whiteline North America rep a while back. It was a limited number of units, all of which will be covered under warranty. They stopped production to eliminate the problem.

I've got a set on order, and I'll be posting my experiences once I get them installed.

Turn in Concepts 01-11-2013 11:44 AM

We had some problems with them back a year ago or so, but they seem to be better since.

Tony

Smudgeous 01-13-2013 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turn in Concepts (Post 658639)
We had some problems with them back a year ago or so, but they seem to be better since.

Tony

I've had 2 sets both result in the same issues. The second pair was double-checked that nothing was wrong before installing them (no notchiness, bearings spun fine), but after driving around on them for awhile, I got the same issues with the car making a lot of clunking while turning the wheel.

For the record, the first ones I got were in August, with the replacements in mid September. Unfortunately during installation the second time, I let the wife help out with the re-tightening of the strut bolts with my torque wrench, with the result basically the same as Cobrabyte's recent post :sigh:

I suppose I could always try to contact Whiteline about it since it's still a problem that happened regardless of the shearing of the bolt, but I'm not sure whether I want to try a third time or just call it quits and throw back on the stockers..

Smudgeous 01-16-2013 05:12 PM

As a follow-up to my last post, I just got off the phone with Jan, who told me that they did have a bad batch of bearings from their last manufacturing run that they're aware of and trying to rectify. He said they're currently expecting a replacement batch in around the end of February, and already had my name down on a list of people who'd called in with problems. They'll be working on getting everyone replacement (or in my case, replacement replacement) Com Cs around the beginning of March.

For those curious of my own plight, he additionally told me that my sheared bolt would not be a problem, and that I can still return them once I receive the new ones.

ATL BRZ 01-17-2013 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smudgeous (Post 669615)
As a follow-up to my last post, I just got off the phone with Jan, who told me that they did have a bad batch of bearings from their last manufacturing run that they're aware of and trying to rectify. He said they're currently expecting a replacement batch in around the end of February, and already had my name down on a list of people who'd called in with problems. They'll be working on getting everyone replacement (or in my case, replacement replacement) Com Cs around the beginning of March.

For those curious of my own plight, he additionally told me that my sheared bolt would not be a problem, and that I can still return them once I receive the new ones.


That is my understanding as well, I've been emailing Jan back and forth myself awaiting the upcoming solution. Right now I'm still running the stock top mounts. I have a brand new set of com-c's that they sent me sitting around and I will send them back once the replacements get in. Jan assured me that it would be a complimentary replacement, which I appreciate.

Here is my post explaining the issue with the top mounts: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=175

sw20kosh 02-12-2013 08:04 PM

Any update on these from Whiteline? Would love to get these new revised ones on the car! :party0030:

ATL BRZ 02-19-2013 06:00 PM

Bump for update. Anyone talk to Jan from WL-US?

Calum 02-19-2013 07:14 PM

I've inquired with a couple vendors about the top hats. Everyone seems to say the new batch should be available ~ march.

jamal 02-19-2013 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ (Post 745078)
Bump for update. Anyone talk to Jan from WL-US?

Yep. A couple weeks ago I heard mid march.

Turn in Concepts 02-19-2013 08:23 PM

I've been watching, and they are out of stock everywhere (or at least all the common places).

ATL BRZ 03-05-2013 04:46 PM

Just got an email from Jan @ Whiteline US. The new batch of top mounts are in and should be shipping out now to warranty customers.

ATL BRZ 03-12-2013 11:01 PM

FINALLY received my warranty replacement Whiteline Com-C top mounts. My originals were removed after one day of rattle & pop filled driving due to bad bearings and/or suspension geometry. I took some comparison photos of the new vs old top mounts to show what's different in this run that will hopefully solve the issues with deforming rubber around the bearings when turning, and some folks had clunking noises too

Bottom side comparison, you can clearly see a different bearing insert in the middle, not much else different
http://i.imgur.com/1BAtZgD.jpg

New top side includes some dust covers.
http://i.imgur.com/gmNpAI9.jpg

Without the dust covers on top. Note the different inner bearings on top
http://i.imgur.com/v93BQYY.jpg

This is where I'm still concerned about these. In my experience with the original Com-C's, over every slight bump or deviation, I could hear the upper spring perches colliding with the collar around the bottom of the top mounts, circled below in blue. I presumed this was due to bad geometry due to the lack of a conical washer on the upper spring perch on the BRZ; we have a welded flat washer, unlike the WRX which uses a separate conical washer to ensure proper mating with the inner bearing at the increased negative camber angles. When I removed the original Com-C's to swap back to stock, my upper spring perches had marks all over them from colliding with the collar on the bottom of the Com-C's. They were installed exactly as instructed and spun freely around the strut before installing back into the car.

http://i.imgur.com/x9R3Ol6.jpg

The new top mounts have the exact same collar depth, which has me concerned about them. I will be emailing my concerns and findings to Jan at Whiteline-US and try to get more info about what has changed in this new batch to prevent contact between the bottom collar of the Com-C's and the upper spring perch.

ATL BRZ 03-14-2013 05:05 PM

Jan @ Whiteline US responded to my inquiry

Quote:

The durometer of the rubber has been stepped up to reduce deflection under load.

The top hats have been road tested on cars in Australia, with zero problems to date.


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