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sandman126 04-17-2013 10:17 PM

Megan Racing Rack Ends
 
Oh Happy Day!! Been waiting for some more steering angle. Still gonna want more, but it's a good start :thumbup:

http://www.enjukuracing.com/products...Rack-Ends.html

Captain Snooze 04-17-2013 10:28 PM

"These Inner Tie Rods are constructed of a durable steel alloy which is much stronger that the OEM pieces that have a tendency to bend and break."

Really?

sandman126 04-17-2013 10:38 PM

haha yea I haven't heard of that happening to anyone

jamal 04-17-2013 10:39 PM

I see no way that could increase steering angle.

sandman126 04-17-2013 10:43 PM

"With the spacer built into their knuckle, they allow the steering rack more travel to achieve the highest possible angle."

Definitely not the highest possible angle, but my buddy has them on his S chassis and they definitely increased his steering angle

mobybrz 04-20-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 873587)
"These Inner Tie Rods are constructed of a durable steel alloy which is much stronger that the OEM pieces that have a tendency to bend and break."

:thumbdown: I saw that too...gotta love marketing speak.

Touge Monster 04-20-2013 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze (Post 873587)
"These Inner Tie Rods are constructed of a durable steel alloy which is much stronger that the OEM pieces that have a tendency to bend and break."

Really?


Considering these cost about half what the factory parts do I'd be skeptical.

Draco-REX 04-20-2013 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamal (Post 873606)
I see no way that could increase steering angle.

By moving the pivot outwards, they increase the rate that the knuckle turns.

However, I dont see this doing good things for bump-steer.

jamal 04-20-2013 08:08 PM

No I see what they're doing now- letting the rack travel farther. Doesn't change where it locates on the knuckle. But who knows what could happen if you let the rack travel farther than intended. Run out of teeth? Damage seals? freak out the electronics and VSC? That was happening with q-racks on the wrx because what was happening with the wheel speeds wasn't matching what the steering angle sensor was saying.

philstar 12-31-2013 09:43 AM

Anyone get these yet?

Dephective 01-02-2014 12:13 AM

Should have been made with chromoly..

And they need to make adjustable rod ends. Seems rubbish.

wparsons 01-02-2014 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draco-REX (Post 880099)
By moving the pivot outwards, they increase the rate that the knuckle turns.

However, I dont see this doing good things for bump-steer.

These are the inner tie-rods, not the outer. The outers attach to these and the knuckles, these attach to the rack.

Ryaquinn 01-16-2014 11:42 AM

Anyone know how many mm the spacer is. Maybe 5mm like the 240sx slipons?

Dave-ROR 01-16-2014 01:41 PM

I came to this thread just because I saw the word Rack.

7thgear 01-16-2014 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR (Post 1455772)
I came to this thread just because I saw the word Rack.

and wanting an increased steering angle

TmP 04-27-2014 01:37 AM

I'd rather bump an old thread than start a new one... So, anyone running these?

Ryaquinn 04-27-2014 06:54 PM

I believe @diss7 is running a similar


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diss7 04-27-2014 07:32 PM

They're decent, get them. They increase lock enough that I'm now rubbing on the sway bar.

Prob the best bang for buck mod I've done.

TmP 04-27-2014 08:00 PM

Awesome!
That's good to know.
There aren't exactly a lot of angle mods out there for the 86 yet...

TmP 04-27-2014 08:45 PM

Just out of curiosity - how hard was the install? Any problems?
Also, do you think the Whiteline Tie Rod ends would make any difference?

diss7 04-27-2014 11:59 PM

I have the whiteline tie rod ends as well, they aren't going to give you more lock.

You have to visualise the steering system from the rack to the knuckle to visualise what effects what. Just having a longer tie rod is just going to make wheels toe in.
The megan inner tie rods are no longer than stock. But they have a part of the knuckle/joint machined down, this allows it to enter the rack, more rack movement = more lock.

As I said, with just the inner tie rods, I am rubbing on the sway bar. So you won't get any more angle by doing anything else, unless you increase the track via a lower control arm.

They're easy to put in. I bet if you just took it for an alignment, the aligner will put them in before the alignment for a sly $20.

I already had my car on the hoist putting other parts in, so I just dropped the whole rack assembly as one and changed it all over on the ground. But you dont have to do it that way.

You can see the rubbing here. Adding a spacer helps a little, but still rubs. This is just with 7.5" wide wheel and 205/40 tyre. Its a lot of lock though. I'll don't find myself needing more angle, unless I've over cooked it and am trying to save it. Thats about all more lock would be good for.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.n...81677186_n.jpg

diss7 04-28-2014 08:38 AM

I've put some more pics and info about these here - https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...28873627363827

TmP 04-28-2014 09:05 AM

Good info. I understand how the inners work, I just wasn't sure what the white line outers do to be honest.
Some geometry change I assume, but wasn't sure if they were beneficial to drifting.

What I take from this thread, is that knuckle mods on these cars are going to be useless unless you go widebody...

diss7 04-28-2014 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TmP (Post 1701961)
Good info. I understand how the inners work, I just wasn't sure what the white line outers do to be honest.
Some geometry change I assume, but wasn't sure if they were beneficial to drifting.

What I take from this thread, is that knuckle mods on these cars are going to be useless unless you go widebody...

Not necessarily. But knuckle mods change a few things, like ackerman for one. Now zero ackerman is great for drifting, but not so for circuit/grip.

Ultimately, steering angle is governed by numerous things. For me, it's inner clearance. I could flip the top hat, increase track, and get more lock., still without touching the knuckle.

The prototype PBM kit does not have wide body. It really comes down to te wheel/tyre size.

TmP 05-12-2014 02:00 PM

K, got my car, got my Megan Inners.
Look like quality parts.
Not sure when exactly, but may put 'em in this weekend.

Would appreciate getting access to your write up. :)

Ryaquinn 05-19-2014 03:38 PM

Megan Racing Rack Ends
 
Take plenty of pics for install and comparison of size to stock


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PradiG 10-04-2014 02:18 AM

Does anyone know if the megan inner tie rods are longer than the oem tie rods?

GT86drifter 02-25-2015 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TmP (Post 1731409)
K, got my car, got my Megan Inners.
Look like quality parts.
Not sure when exactly, but may put 'em in this weekend.

Would appreciate getting access to your write up. :)

any additional reviews on the inners? pics on change of angle? clearance?

thien 01-21-2016 09:26 AM

Still waiting for comparison vs oem. Ftspeedfactory says it's longer than oem but someone up there said it's same length.

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