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Squawk 02-17-2020 01:30 PM

Gas station or Fr-S issue?
 
I went to 76 and usually every time i fill up i let the pump sit there probably because of this issue so last night I thought fuck it I’m probably just overthinking and being cheap trying to hold as much pump as possible so I let it flow like normal but then I go in the car and my gas gauge doesn’t even move at all? I looked at the gas and it showed me everything according to the screen was working properly.

So my concerns are

1. Do gas stations lie when it shows the tank is filling up from the screen?

2. Is the gas in my car and the FR-S is acting retarded?

DarkPira7e 02-17-2020 01:39 PM

My concerns are

1. Did you hear gas moving?

2. Were you changed for any fuel dispensed into your vehicle?

3. Did you drive your car away from the gas station with the fuel light on low and eventually run out of fuel?

Some pumps display the PREVIOUSLY DISPENSED metering until your card is authorized (or your pre-pay activated) when you change your grade selection. It's entirely possible that what it displayed was the previous vehicle's dispensed quantity and fuel charge, and you did absolutely nothing.

Tcoat 02-17-2020 01:44 PM

Gas pumps are highly regulated and monitored so it is very unlikely that it's meter is off either on purpose or by accident.


The 86 does have a bit of history of not reading the level properly from time to tme though.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89323
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2713846
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=609266
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2955411
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110168

Squawk 02-17-2020 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPira7e (Post 3299760)
My concerns are

1. Did you hear gas moving?

2. Were you changed for any fuel dispensed into your vehicle?

3. Did you drive your car away from the gas station with the fuel light on low and eventually run out of fuel?

Some pumps display the PREVIOUSLY DISPENSED metering until your card is authorized (or your pre-pay activated) when you change your grade selection. It's entirely possible that what it displayed was the previous vehicle's dispensed quantity and fuel charge, and you did absolutely nothing.


It wasn’t the previously dispensed cause I only filled up $10 and I recall just making a big deal out of it cause I saw some guy walking from the darkness of the suite hotel next to the gas station it was at night too I just knew if this cheap ass shit of not holding the pump doesn’t work for the first time ever trying it I was going to lose my shit and of course it didn’t work. I’m assuming letting it flow like water gives me a irresponsive gauge. Sheesh. That irritated tf out of me cause just what are the odds of this kind of logic.

Squawk 02-17-2020 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3299761)
Gas pumps are highly regulated and monitored so it is very unlikely that it's meter is off either on purpose or by accident.


The 86 does have a bit of history of not reading the level properly from time to tme though.
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89323
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2713846
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=609266
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2955411
https://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110168

Ya from now on im lettting the pump hold till it explodes to fill up and idgaf about the “cheap” vibes anymore

Tcoat 02-17-2020 02:02 PM

Not really sure what you are saying now. You usually put the handle lock on but this time you held the lever yourself? Both will give the same amount of gas so there is no savings nor "being cheap" using one method or the other.

Squawk 02-17-2020 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3299772)
Not really sure what you are saying now. You usually put the handle lock on but this time you held the lever yourself? Both will give the same amount of gas so there is no savings nor "being cheap" using one method or the other.

Usually i hear a light sound but when i just give it a start/push i let go let it hold till i just hear it build up for a good few seconds then push the gas in the car probably for the reason of the gauge not getting stuck and then I just decided to let the pump do its thing and low and behold the gauge is stuck again

Leonardo 02-17-2020 02:08 PM

(in my state at least...) There is a government stamp on each pump that shows the last time it was inspected/certified. Which, IIRC, happens once a year. I bet the other states have a similar pump certification.

Squawk 02-17-2020 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonardo (Post 3299777)
(in my state at least...) There is a government stamp on each pump that shows the last time it was inspected/certified. Which, IIRC, happens once a year. I bet the other states have a similar pump certification.

I could’ve sworn it was either on the side i pumped gas on that said it was out of order a month ago or the other side either way its a flunky 76 station sitting on top of a rich hilltop area

deca 02-17-2020 02:29 PM

I legitimately can't figure out what is being asked here, this is maybe the most confused I've ever been reading a thread lol

Pumps are very closely regulated, it's extremely unlikely that any sort of scam is going down. Using the handle lock is no different from holding the lever down with your hand, it's a purely mechanical device that simply keeps the handle in the squeezed position. The fuel cuts off due to some mechanism in the nozzle or the evap system in the car I believe? It has nothing to do with whether or not you're holding the handle or using the lock.

Are you confused because your fuel gauge isn't updating in real time? Fuel gauges don't usually reflect added fuel until the car starts up, if you left it running it might need to be turned off and back on to show the current amount.

Squawk 02-17-2020 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deca (Post 3299788)
I legitimately can't figure out what is being asked here, this is maybe the most confused I've ever been reading a thread lol

Pumps are very closely regulated, it's extremely unlikely that any sort of scam is going down. Using the handle lock is no different from holding the lever down with your hand, it's a purely mechanical device that simply keeps the handle in the squeezed position. The fuel cuts off due to some mechanism in the nozzle or the evap system in the car I believe? It has nothing to do with whether or not you're holding the handle or using the lock.

Are you confused because your fuel gauge isn't updating in real time? Fuel gauges don't usually reflect added fuel until the car starts up, if you left it running it might need to be turned off and back on to show the current amount.

Ive been driving it last night back home and this morning to work it is like I paid $10 for nothing. I am going to see if it goes on E though cause I legit had a good filled to a quarter 1/4 of a tank fill it up with $10 and it is still at 1/4...

deca 02-17-2020 02:37 PM

Do you have a way to keep track of the exact miles you've actually driven since filling up? I know on my old Focus the gauge moves way faster in one half of its range than the other.

Squawk 02-17-2020 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deca (Post 3299792)
Do you have a way to keep track of the exact miles you've actually driven since filling up? I know on my old Focus the gauge moves way faster in one half of its range than the other.

Yes i do im a software engineer so it all clicks to me like 1s and 0s ill for sure find out if i just got robbed by 76

HKz 02-17-2020 02:45 PM

get a obd2 reader and check fuel consumption & tank level through an app?

Squawk 02-17-2020 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HKz (Post 3299796)
get a obd2 reader and check fuel consumption & tank level through an app?

I just hope I don’t have a bad feeling about this otherwise something’s getting recalled 😂

Tcoat 02-17-2020 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squawk (Post 3299790)
Ive been driving it last night back home and this morning to work it is like I paid $10 for nothing. I am going to see if it goes on E though cause I legit had a good filled to a quarter 1/4 of a tank fill it up with $10 and it is still at 1/4...

$10 worth of gas is about 3 gallons. How far do you expect the gauge to move? It is not a precision instrument.

Squawk 02-17-2020 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3299799)
$10 worth of gas is about 3 gallons. How far do you expect the gauge to move? It is not a precision instrument.


I only ever fill up $10 probably because for this reason too so I know what to expect for sure lol

Tcoat 02-17-2020 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squawk (Post 3299805)
I only ever fill up $10 probably because for this reason too so I know what to expect for sure lol

OK dude you have some strange, strange ideas about gas, the operation of fueling and economics.


There is nothing wrong with your car.
You were not ripped off by the station.
Not sure if trolling or actually that confused.


I am outta this now since nothing rational is happening.

Squawk 02-17-2020 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3299808)
OK dude you have some strange, strange ideas about gas, the operation of fueling and economics.


There is nothing wrong with your car.
You were not ripped off by the station.
Not sure if trolling or actually that confused.


I am outta this now since nothing rational is happening.

It didn’t move its not complicated lol its supposed to go to 2/3-3/4 a tank but it didnt move and stayed at 1/4 still after paying $10 like always and either i didnt do what i always do or the gas station is out of order lol

Tcoat 02-17-2020 03:46 PM

So...
It is a 14 gallon tank. If at EXACTLY a 1/4 (not actually a little below) and 3 gallons are added then in a perfect world the gauge would go up to just under half a tank.
If the gauge used to go up to 2/3 or /3/4 then either the tank was already well above 1/4, was misread or one hell of a deal on gas!

Squawk 02-17-2020 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3299820)
So...
It is a 14 gallon tank. If at EXACTLY a 1/4 (not actually a little below) and 3 gallons are added then in a perfect world the gauge would go up to just under half a tank.
If the gauge used to go up to 2/3 or /3/4 then either the tank was already well above 1/4, was misread or one hell of a deal on gas!

Ah shit 2/4* but yeah thats EXACTLY what i mean

It’s 2.51 gallons last night for 91

JD001 02-17-2020 04:00 PM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the owner's manual. Page 53 (I think) talks about patting the roof of the car when filling with fuel. This motion/action removes wind, the burps clearing the tubes for more fuel..

Squawk 02-17-2020 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3299826)
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the owner's manual. Page 53 (I think) talks about patting the roof of the car when filling with fuel. This motion/action removes wind, the burps clearing the tubes for more fuel..

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...87/193/8a5.png

Lol i’m already assuming the gauge isn’t being read right which is pretty scary but Wow what were the odds of that happening

Will BRZ 02-17-2020 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD001 (Post 3299826)
I'm surprised no one has mentioned the owner's manual. Page 53 (I think) talks about patting the roof of the car when filling with fuel. This motion/action removes wind, the burps clearing the tubes for more fuel..

Dude thank you so much. My MPG has gone up by 30 and my car can take its nap time after burping! Which of course equals more HP


:slap:

Squawk 02-17-2020 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3299845)
Dude thank you so much. My MPG has gone up by 30 and my car can take its nap time after burping! Which of course equals more HP


:slap:

To the window to the wall

korhun 02-17-2020 06:46 PM

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soundman98 02-17-2020 08:36 PM

if you code like you type, there's a major bug patch in your future....


i know this is english, but i can't make sense of more than 2/3's of it..

Mr.ac 02-17-2020 09:47 PM

Is it me or was the op high as duck?
Did he really complained about putting gas?

Squawk 02-17-2020 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3299920)
Is it me or was the op high as duck?
Did he really complained about putting gas?

There’s still a chance the gauge isn’t wrong either lol

Will BRZ 02-17-2020 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.ac (Post 3299920)
Is it me or was the op high as duck?
Did he really complained about putting gas?

I don’t know bro ducks can get pretty wild...

Will BRZ 02-17-2020 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squawk (Post 3299923)
There’s still a chance the gauge isn’t wrong either lol

Yeah sometimes I wish we had those gauges that say how many miles we had left in the tank, though those aren’t the most accurate either. But I still keep it at least at 1/4 tank at all times and never had an issue. What’s the plan now? Just gonna keep an eye on the gas left or what?

Squawk 02-17-2020 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3299926)
Yeah sometimes I wish we had those gauges that say how many miles we had left in the tank, though those aren’t the most accurate either. But I still keep it at least at 1/4 tank at all times and never had an issue. What’s the plan now? Just gonna keep an eye on the gas left or what?

Pretty much

Ultramaroon 02-17-2020 10:58 PM

Run it down until the light comes on and then fill it. Does the gauge work? If yes, fuggetaboutit.

Squawk 02-18-2020 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Will BRZ (Post 3299926)
Yeah sometimes I wish we had those gauges that say how many miles we had left in the tank, though those aren’t the most accurate either. But I still keep it at least at 1/4 tank at all times and never had an issue. What’s the plan now? Just gonna keep an eye on the gas left or what?

So I went to the car and the gauge was still stuck. So I went to the same spot same gas station same 2.501 gallons and this time it shot up to over 2/4’s a tank. So I am completing my analysis that as much as I thought that 1/4 tank was going to get me to 2/4 I may have been pressing my luck before that freeway exit cause this was technically a 0/4 to 2/4 $20 total of 5 gallons of 91 gas.

Boomerang 02-18-2020 06:54 AM

Banned.


Ichi come home, I'm scared.

JD001 02-18-2020 08:03 AM

Like I have said, the car requires a good back rubbing session so it burps..

gravitylover 02-18-2020 09:33 AM

I used to just drive fast down a bumpy road. It worked great in my 74 Ford van with a stuck gas gauge.

Squawk 02-18-2020 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomerang (Post 3300001)
Banned.


Ichi come home, I'm scared.

Banned how when I bought shares of SPCE at $13 and now it’s $30 enough for me to buy 3+ more FR-S.

Ya I get it now gauges are too old-school for a software engineer.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/6D7CsR1UVLk/hqdefault.jpg

Tcoat 02-18-2020 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squawk (Post 3300212)
Ya I get it now gauges are too old-school for a software engineer.

Apparently so is basic English, fractions, consistency/accuracy in figures (Was it $2.51 a gallon or $2.501), addition and overall comprehension of physics.

Squawk 02-18-2020 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat (Post 3300234)
Apparently so is basic English, fractions, consistency/accuracy in figures (Was it $2.51 a gallon or $2.501), addition and overall comprehension of physics.

They may as well bring the EEE and the GFC and the IOP to make sure gauges are accurate 😂


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