Some power chips to go with the torque dip perhaps?

:thumbsup:

it could very well be just another facelift, but looking back people said the same thing when they saw this test car. the click-bait media reported that we were getting an IS-F convertible, but it turn out to be a test mule for the Lexus RC.

https://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/...py-photos.html

https://www.motor1.com/news/32692/20...n-is-f-cabrio/

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ZGmD5hQ7E[/ame]

Yeah I get it. In my case it wouldn’t make much difference, with track alignment and cup 2 tires I already get everything thrown onto the side panels :bonk:

With some grille/mesh like the 14R60 or some of the other examples mentioned before, I think it would be fine.

Yes it could be a test mule for some upgrades or there could be something well hidden (As I said). Comments such as "we do know is that it's based off the same chassis architecture" is what I was countering. It IS the same chassis. This is not a second gen version of the car as it is so making such statements is silly. There are people here that swear the body lines are different and the car is a different size. It isn't! It is just a plain old body with a wonky bumper, some vents and a flair on the trunk lid. It is just a face lift "mule" probably checking out some suspension tweaks, the aero and whatever those vents are going to do.
We will see in a year or so.

yes i agree that it appears to be the same exterior shell. we also have to keep in mind that test mule have different stages of development. IF this is anything related to 86 2.0 i think what @NoHaveMSG said is more pausable (early stage testing).

[emoji23] Yes please, Nitrous Nacho flavor


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specs from Bestcar has the same wheelbase.

https://i.imgur.com/Aw3VmG3.jpg

that makes sense. rumors are saying Subaru is taking the lend with the 2nd gen developments.

It is heavier ... Hmm.

217 hp and 177 lbft of torque

Depends on which model you compare it to...

If the posted specs for the next gen are correct and the M/T does weigh 1250 kg (2756 lbs)

then it's 20 pounds lighter than a current USDM base model 86 manual which weighs 1259 kg (2776 lbs)

and 77 pounds lighter than a 2020 BRZ tS which weighs 1285 kg (2833 lbs)

The current stripped down JDM models weigh 1210 kg (2667 lbs) with no A/C, no sound system, no spoiler, no spare & 16" wheels.

https://i.postimg.cc/Qxzkyj3t/Gen2.jpg

LOL

Where did these numbers come from?
I've seen it floating around for the last little awhile and was wondering how they even came to such numbers (its fairly specific)....

Closest thing i could think of is the 86 GRMN with the 216hp/160lbft FA20.

^^^ I would not expect any more than that on the next BRZ/86, if you do......