I bought an FR-S about a year ago. I've driven both the 911 and a Cayman. Pound for pound the FR-S really holds it's own against two really great performance cars. But, the FR-S is just a place holder for me. My next car will be a Cayman S. You can get a used, low mileage Cayman S for $30K(ish)...great deal for such a great ride.
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I traded a Boxster in on my FR-S. the Boxster was a great handling car, but I felt it was a hand grenade ready to let go. The tub on the 986,987 is fantastic, but the engine and all the accessories were sub par. I think Porsche built low quality cars in the late 90s and early 2000s. In 2009, when they got rid of the intermediate shaft and 34 engine parts, they stepped up their game. The same for the cayenne. I had an 06 that was falling apart after only three years. The 2010 appears to be on the mark. I would be tempted by an 09 or newer Cayman S, but in today's economy, the FR-S, BR-Z was a no-brainer.
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Ganthrithor, I think your comments very much echo mine.
Soravia, you are not missing much in terms of Cayman's shifter. It's typical Porsche. Easy to operate, medium throws, pleasant enough but nothing sensational like an S2k. The 987 gen Cayman's steering is sensationally full of feedback however. Lots of nuggety feel all throughout and you get a real sense of the tires loading up as you enter and exit corners (the BRZ steering is good, but not this good). Very very satisfying, almost as good as the Lotus Exige that I had at my disposal for a while (but not quite Lotus quality). The Lotus has the best steering in existence IMO. http://imageshack.us/a/img38/3362/1z8a1062.jpg Quote:
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The ONLY thing I'm not enjoying so far is that kids with rusty two thousand dollar beater civics and integras are constantly trying to hassle me. In the Porsches... I never got this kind of heat. In fact, I've never even known they existed. |
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Also, dat garage. Out of curiosity, do you have many good driving roads up in BC? |
A local member has said it before but I will say it again; I am uber jealous of your spacious garage!...
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Thanks DaJo!
Ganthrithor, There are quite a few outside city limits, but the heat is a bit too serious this year. See, we have a law where any citation of 'excessive speed' comes with an automatic vehicle impound. If your vehicle is high value enough, they will even sell it off. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01...t-racing-case/ Oh, and they run helicopters all day long to try and catch speeders... http://www.theprovince.com/news/Poli...523/story.html Over the top right? Not a fun place to be a car enthusiast. I'm sure you have way better roads and probably more manageable heat in Colorado. |
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Of course, with my past history, a "lifetime" of oil changes will only last a couple of years anyway...I tend to go through cars like some kind of A.D.D. for car buying. ...I am trying to change that... :bonk: |
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Having not driven the Porsche or Bimmer, I can't comment first hand, but I see where you're coming from. As for your comment that the BRZ is like a hardcore Miata - I find it to be more like the Miata's bigger brother.
I had a modified NA - full Flying Miata suspension and frame rails. Handled sharper and felt very light on its feet. I owned both cars concurrently for almost a year. The BRZ was much softer riding - in a good way - not harsh, and very comfortable over bumps. You could definitely feel the 300+ pound weight difference in the BRZ. The Miata was slightly more fun to drive, while the BRZ gave a better overall driving experience (comfort, features, etc) while still being very engaging and fun itself. |
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Not to go way off topic here, but what are "frame rails"? Did you have to reinforce the Miata's frame in order to get adequate rigidity? Or to compensate for added HP? (I understand that people had to do this with Z3s.) I would buy a Miata over a BRZ if Miata would come out with a "superleggera" with 200 HP. Instead, they are coming out with a forced induction engine that will be smaller but produce HP same as existing models, and they're going to sell the frame and powertrain to Alfa Romeo for their re-introduced Spider. |
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Again, I feel the BRZ is just like a grown up more mature sibling to the Miata I had. Against the newer Miata, the differences are probably less pronounced. Now back to M3's and Porsches! I had an E39 5 series in the late 90's - I think the E90 3-series sedan is close in size/weight to my old 528i! |
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